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5 minutes ago, vinnyweknuts said:

it does seem surreal some of these sponsorship deals, I don't even know what half of them are even trying to market, what happened to Top Man, Sharp, Crown Paints!!

I guess there dont have as much of the peoples money to even match the gambling sites sponsorship deals?

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They should be banned, the same as for Tobacco companies. What winds me up is the spiralling rise in Bingo sites, these are thinly disguised betting companies, aiming their product at a market sector that is more vulnerable, dressed up as a fun hobby.

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Belgium's approach to online gambling is much better than the UK's - all online sites must be affiliated with a local physical casino, and they must share the legal burden if/when things go wrong. All other online casinos are blocked. In addition to this the gambling authority keeps a central register of players who are barred from playing, and those who elect to self-ban, which means they simply can't register at the online sites or go into the physical sites (ID must be shown) - punishment for allowing a banned player is punitive, and players who successfully bypass the ban (by using a relative's ID for example) are fined €5k for each offence. It's not perfect but it's far better than the UK's self-policing. In the UK, if you identify as a problem gambler, there's simply no way to block yourself from all online sites, you must do it on a site by site basis- so even on those moments when you have a clear mind (usually having spent your wage presumably), and you want to ban yourself, you simply don't have that option. I suspect the government has never moved in this direction because places like Gibraltar and other UK dependencies depend on the income from the industry.

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1 hour ago, Forever a Shayman said:

Noticed last night Huddersfield had no sponsorship on there shirt against Notts Forest think they had a Chinese betting firm  on there shirt last couple of seasons .

They were sponsored by Paddy Power most recently. They had that whole thing where they had the 'sash' banner last season, got fined, said it was all a publicity stunt and announced that they wouldn't be having the loo on their shirts.

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As much as I sympathise with anyone with any sort of addiction I don’t agree with banning certain sectors from advertising their products, however heinous they may be.

Banning the likes of McDonalds from advertising their rubbish isn’t going to stop morbid obese people from stuffing their faces with it.

i have yet to see an advert that has made me think that I had to go and blow any cash on the product or service because it was on the back is someone’s shirt, on TV or on a billboard. We can’t ban everything because it adversely affects a small minority. If you’re an alcoholic do you want all pubs shut because they advertise what they sell, and do you get alcohol removed from supermarket shelves whilst closing the likes of Bargain Booze or whatever?

If an addict requires help it should available - funded by whatever Industry if need be - but blanket bans are not on 

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1 minute ago, Angus said:

As much as I sympathise with anyone with any sort of addiction I don’t agree with banning certain sectors from advertising their products, however heinous they may be.

Banning the likes of McDonalds from advertising their rubbish isn’t going to stop morbid obese people from stuffing their faces with it.

i have yet to see an advert that has made me think that I had to go and blow any cash on the product or service because it was on the back is someone’s shirt, on TV or on a billboard. We can’t ban everything because it adversely affects a small minority. If you’re an alcoholic do you want all pubs shut because they advertise what they sell, and do you get alcohol removed from supermarket shelves whilst closing the likes of Bargain Booze or whatever?

If an addict requires help it should available - funded by whatever Industry if need be - but blanket bans are not on 

The majority of advertising doesn't so much on 'I have to go out and get that product now' but more brand recognition so it weasels its way into your mind so that one day you go 'yeah, why not'.

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55 minutes ago, Angus said:

As much as I sympathise with anyone with any sort of addiction I don’t agree with banning certain sectors from advertising their products, however heinous they may be.

Banning the likes of McDonalds from advertising their rubbish isn’t going to stop morbid obese people from stuffing their faces with it.

i have yet to see an advert that has made me think that I had to go and blow any cash on the product or service because it was on the back is someone’s shirt, on TV or on a billboard. We can’t ban everything because it adversely affects a small minority. If you’re an alcoholic do you want all pubs shut because they advertise what they sell, and do you get alcohol removed from supermarket shelves whilst closing the likes of Bargain Booze or whatever?

If an addict requires help it should available - funded by whatever Industry if need be - but blanket bans are not on 

There's a reason why coca cola still advertise.

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1 hour ago, Wilder Bollox said:

Advertising is a cheap way of avoiding/discounting tax for the bigger companies and probably some of the smaller ones . 

It's all about brand recognition, keeping the brand in your psyche. The whole world knows about Coca-Cola, it's pretty much everywhere, and whether you drink it or not, it's the adverts that keep it in your brain - the same reason why they insist on having a whole aisle in the supermarkets, that kind of thing. Betting companies like to advertise not because it gets new customers - because you're either a gambler or your not - but because it keeps their brand in your head. Ban the adverts, problem gambling would massively reduce. Same as taxing sugary drinks has reduced the consumption of said drinks, etc.

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20 hours ago, Angus said:

As much as I sympathise with anyone with any sort of addiction I don’t agree with banning certain sectors from advertising their products, however heinous they may be.

Banning the likes of McDonalds from advertising their rubbish isn’t going to stop morbid obese people from stuffing their faces with it.

i have yet to see an advert that has made me think that I had to go and blow any cash on the product or service because it was on the back is someone’s shirt, on TV or on a billboard. We can’t ban everything because it adversely affects a small minority. If you’re an alcoholic do you want all pubs shut because they advertise what they sell, and do you get alcohol removed from supermarket shelves whilst closing the likes of Bargain Booze or whatever?

If an addict requires help it should available - funded by whatever Industry if need be - but blanket bans are not on 

I get what your saying but you dont see pubs advertised every other advert on tv..people have the right to gamble,drink smoke etc...no pubs shouldn't be closed and neither should gambling shops...but the amount of gambling adverts in the world will make alot of our children think about doing it some will lose control and some will lose there  lifes because of it...it needs tonning down ten fold in my eyes

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From the age of about 15 I regularly gambled in order to improve my income. I went completely over the top and got myself in a lot of trouble both financially and a police record to boot. I ended up attending GA and despite a few minor falling off the wagon successfully quit.

Years later I started gambling again but now only gamble what I can afford to lose (maybe I am in a minority here) My eldest son has started gambling and that is probably down to me rather than any adverts but it shows how influenced the young can be.

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2 minutes ago, Shaymen2008 said:

From the age of about 15 I regularly gambled in order to improve my income. I went completely over the top and got myself in a lot of trouble both financially and a police record to boot. I ended up attending GA and despite a few minor falling off the wagon successfully quit.

Years later I started gambling again but now only gamble what I can afford to lose (maybe I am in a minority here) My eldest son has started gambling and that is probably down to me rather than any adverts but it shows how influenced the young can be.

I always say I don´t smoke because I don´t like it, I don´t drink because I don´t like it and I don´t gamble because I would. Use to gamble but not at all now sorry once a year on Spanish lottery .

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1 hour ago, Shaymen2008 said:

From the age of about 15 I regularly gambled in order to improve my income. I went completely over the top and got myself in a lot of trouble both financially and a police record to boot. I ended up attending GA and despite a few minor falling off the wagon successfully quit.

Years later I started gambling again but now only gamble what I can afford to lose (maybe I am in a minority here) My eldest son has started gambling and that is probably down to me rather than any adverts but it shows how influenced the young can be.

fare play to you...I've done ga and couldn't do what you are doing just having a bet now and again I couldn't do that...keep a eye on your son aswell pal as we both know what could happen

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Thanks. I find it easy to keep my betting under control and believe me even though my eldest doesn't live with me I try and keep an eye on him and remind him what I went through. I also quit smoking 19 years ago but I dare not even think of having one because I know within a week I will be back to smoking 40 to 60 a day and that would be 19 years wasted not allowing for the fact I couldn't afford it now. 

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