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I was reading this morning that Charlton are going to contest their relegation  from the Championship to league 1. It's based on the fact that Sheffield Wednesday have been deducted 12 points for financial discrepancies. However, the points don't come off till next season, or effectively they start next season minus 12 points. It seems that Charlton are arguing that had the 12 points come off this season then just like Barnsley, they would have survived. You do have to look at these things and in my opinion, for what it's worth, I think they have a good case!! In truth the only people that suffer due to this situation are the fans. The fans have no control over the running of a club or the finances etc, but ultimately its the fans that lose out.

But in terms of who should survive if a team is relegated due to the points deduction, I would like to see a system that see's the bottom three clubs relegated, just as it should be, but if a team like Wigan have points deducted and end up in the situation where they will be relegated, then 4 teams should come up from the league below. So in other words, Barnsley would have been relegated along with the other two teams and Wigan, and in this instance, Sheffield Wednesday with 5 teams being promoted.

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One of the saddest parts of Wigan going into administration, apart from the club employees being laid off, is the selling off of some of their brightest youth development players. Brighton, Spurs and Leeds amongst others circling over the still-warm corpse.

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Aren't Derby also in some sort of mess too with a potential point deduction to come?

Its horrible for the fans of those clubs however for so long football has been unsustainable with the money being spent. Covid may have sped it up a bit however I feel a lot more clubs could end up in trouble before a ball is kicked in normal circumstances again. The make up of next season could be very different. 

It's needed however. Its a wake up call that this bubble can't last and clubs need to live within their means. If some clubs go under and bust its a shame, however it was a shame when it happened to us but life went on. No one learnt from those mistakes, to what happened at Leeds, or to Portsmouth, or to Luton, or to Chester, or to Darlo etc.. 

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25 minutes ago, Flea said:

Aren't Derby also in some sort of mess too with a potential point deduction to come?

Its horrible for the fans of those clubs however for so long football has been unsustainable with the money being spent. Covid may have sped it up a bit however I feel a lot more clubs could end up in trouble before a ball is kicked in normal circumstances again. The make up of next season could be very different. 

It's needed however. Its a wake up call that this bubble can't last and clubs need to live within their means. If some clubs go under and bust its a shame, however it was a shame when it happened to us but life went on. No one learnt from those mistakes, to what happened at Leeds, or to Portsmouth, or to Luton, or to Chester, or to Darlo etc.. 

Totally agree! It really is unsustainable. It needs for one of the big clubs to go to the wall, and by that I include the top Euro teams. Teams might then take some notice.

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No big club will go to the wall as some dubious character(s) will be waiting in the wings to take over when that happens and the FA will sanction it to keep the system going.

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All the more reason for our own fans to continue to support the club in whatever way they can. After all we don't want to go back to the bad old days, when we are at last beginning to look like one of the more stable clubs in the league. Which is more important, to have a club that risks everything in the hope we can get to the EFL but might go bust in the effort or aftermath, or a club that is managed in a way that we can achieve promotion but in a sustainable way that would keep professional football being played at the Shay for another 100 years? 

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24 minutes ago, ITMAN said:

All the more reason for our own fans to continue to support the club in whatever way they can. After all we don't want to go back to the bad old days, when we are at last beginning to look like one of the more stable clubs in the league. Which is more important, to have a club that risks everything in the hope we can get to the EFL but might go bust in the effort or aftermath, or a club that is managed in a way that we can achieve promotion but in a sustainable way that would keep professional football being played at the Shay for another 100 years? 

We still have no guarantee that the season start will include spectators. 

The word is it's a choice between the schools opening or the pubs in September. 

So it looks like schools out. 

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7 hours ago, Erik Everhard said:

We still have no guarantee that the season start will include spectators. 

The word is it's a choice between the schools opening or the pubs in September. 

So it looks like schools out. 

That's what the teachers would want

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