Popular Post TommyH72 707 Posted July 29, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 The verdict of manslaughter brought in against the young lads who killed Jordan. What a waste of a life, all brought about because of a bit of banter and a throw away comment. It's funny how you can look back at your own life and think how many times you found yourself in very similar situations. That young man who could take on the world, the times you were shoved, probably by accident in a packed bar, or the times you accidently bumped into someone, but the aggressive stance that had to be adopted. Just because you had to!! When I've read the situation surrounding the Jordan case, it's all just so futile, yet it happens every weekend night in our Towns & Cities. How many lives have been wrecked, parents, brothers & sisters, friends and the lads themselves. And all for what?? There is a lessen in there for anyone, Walk Away!! It's not a sign of weakness. R.I.P Jordan, Justice has been served (sort of) 12 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greygoose 1,692 Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 By the looks of it he did walk away only to be persued. Never quite understood why alchol makes some people so aggressive, its meant to aid agood time not a bad one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TommyH72 707 Posted July 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, greygoose said: By the looks of it he did walk away only to be persued. Never quite understood why alchol makes some people so aggressive, its meant to aid agood time not a bad one. Yeah, Walk away if you can! I've seen some awful stuff associated with alcohol over the years as we all probably have, but I've always thought that it just makes aggressive people even more aggressive. I'm the same as you, I've never understood the drink to oblivion mentality of some. But the simple fact is, when you go out, always keep one eye on the idiots, their easy to spot and move away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Everhard 4,965 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 5:56 PM, TommyH72 said: Yeah, Walk away if you can! I've seen some awful stuff associated with alcohol over the years as we all probably have, but I've always thought that it just makes aggressive people even more aggressive. I'm the same as you, I've never understood the drink to oblivion mentality of some. But the simple fact is, when you go out, always keep one eye on the idiots, their easy to spot and move away. Alcohol kills far more people than illegal drugs do. I've never known anyone try and start a fight when they were stoned from smoking cannabis. But alcohol is legal and the other isn't. A big own goal not legalising cannabis when many States in America have and it's also legal in Canada now too. I don't smoke cannabis but it should be legalised. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TommyH72 707 Posted July 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Erik Everhard said: Alcohol kills far more people than illegal drugs do. I've never known anyone try and start a fight when they were stoned from smoking cannabis. But alcohol is legal and the other isn't. A big own goal not legalising cannabis when many States in America have and it's also legal in Canada now too. I don't smoke cannabis but it should be legalised. Alcohol is probably the most abused "substance" known to man. As I say Erik, I'vn seen some horrific stuff when Alcohol has been involved. I've never been down the drugs route and I'm glad and fortunate. The circles I used to hang in and still do on occasion, it's widely available. But your right, the laws need looking at, bringing them into the modern era and to do more to sort out the massive issues that accompany Alcohol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoddie 3,035 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Learn the facts before advocating for making it legal. Alcohol, in moderation, is perfectly fine. Cannabis, even in moderation, can result in serious psychological disorders. That some people abuse alcohol is not a reason to ban it; some people abuse driving, should we ban that, too? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shaamen 16 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Sadly alcohol can bring out the best and worst in people. For some it can make them more social and warm and others it brings out their shadow side and demons. Too true on reflecting back at our own lives regarding this though. I can hand on heart say that I have experienced both sides of the coin. Life is not easy for some, and sadly alcohol can bring it all to the fore. RIP Jordan.....so very, very unnecessary. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Lanzarote 4,561 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 Strangely as a youth I have been in many an altercation purely and simply because I am TT with drinkers taking an exemption to it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
francisfirth 768 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 How can you be TT and support Town!!! 1 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Lanzarote 4,561 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, francisfirth said: How can you be TT and support Town!!! That bleeding well hurts laughing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaykehands 396 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Steve Lanzarote said: Strangely as a youth I have been in many an altercation purely and simply because I am TT with drinkers taking an exemption to it. Too bloody right. Cant believe Hoddie hasnt turfed you off shaymen.net knowing that admission. And before you say anything it is big and clever Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Everhard 4,965 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 hours ago, francisfirth said: How can you be TT and support Town!!! Counselling and a bottle of gin before breakfast is the norm with most fans. Then fill out the rest of tje day with a combination of histerical laughter and terrifying screams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mj85 1,222 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 11 years for manslaughter for the lad who pleaded not guilty. 8 years for manslaughter for the lad who admitted to it. 14 months for affray for the third lad. Just read that Jordan’s missus found out she was pregnant a week after his funeral too. Terribly sad. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Everhard 4,965 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 16 hours ago, Hoddie said: Learn the facts before advocating for making it legal. Alcohol, in moderation, is perfectly fine. Cannabis, even in moderation, can result in serious psychological disorders. That some people abuse alcohol is not a reason to ban it; some people abuse driving, should we ban that, too? You'd better wip off an e-mail to America and Canada. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Everhard 4,965 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, mj85 said: 11 years for manslaughter for the lad who pleaded not guilty. 8 years for manslaughter for the lad who admitted to it. 14 months for affray for the third lad. Just read that Jordan’s missus found out she was pregnant a week after his funeral too. Terribly sad. I didn't know the last bit. FFS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flea 6,622 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, mj85 said: 11 years for manslaughter for the lad who pleaded not guilty. 8 years for manslaughter for the lad who admitted to it. 14 months for affray for the third lad. Just read that Jordan’s missus found out she was pregnant a week after his funeral too. Terribly sad. It hardly feels like "justice" really. The chances of all three of these lads actually serving all of those terms will probably be slim too, they will probably all be out and free to go on with their life before 2025. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Flea 6,622 Posted July 31, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 16 hours ago, Hoddie said: Cannabis, even in moderation, can result in serious psychological disorders. It can also massively improve the lifestyle of those in pain, so its not a black and white "Its good/bad" debate. To have a blanket ban on something that naturally grows and can help those in crippling pain to me just feels wrong. I personally feel having cannabis legalised, with controlled distribution and done where the THC content can be safely worked out is the way forward. The current system is, in my opinion, too rigid and is ruining the quality of life for a lot of seriously ill people. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Everhard 4,965 Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Flea said: It can also massively improve the lifestyle of those in pain, so its not a black and white "Its good/bad" debate. To have a blanket ban on something that naturally grows and can help those in crippling pain to me just feels wrong. I personally feel having cannabis legalised, with controlled distribution and done where the THC content can be safely worked out is the way forward. The current system is, in my opinion, too rigid and is ruining the quality of life for a lot of seriously ill people. Spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoddie 3,035 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Flea said: It can also massively improve the lifestyle of those in pain, so its not a black and white "Its good/bad" debate. To have a blanket ban on something that naturally grows and can help those in crippling pain to me just feels wrong. I personally feel having cannabis legalised, with controlled distribution and done where the THC content can be safely worked out is the way forward. The current system is, in my opinion, too rigid and is ruining the quality of life for a lot of seriously ill people. Where it can be a "massive help" it can be prescribed by a professional, after a thorough risk assessment of the person's mental health. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparrow 1,115 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 I think if its prescribed in the right manner for people in pain then yes I agree...but most people who bang on about it are the ones who smoke it alot... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparrow 1,115 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 9 hours ago, mj85 said: 11 years for manslaughter for the lad who pleaded not guilty. 8 years for manslaughter for the lad who admitted to it. 14 months for affray for the third lad. Just read that Jordan’s missus found out she was pregnant a week after his funeral too. Terribly sad. that's is terribly sad...in another way she will get to see jorden in the childs eyes so it might be a little happiness aswell.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Lanzarote 4,561 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 15 hours ago, shaykehands said: Too bloody right. Cant believe Hoddie hasnt turfed you off shaymen.net knowing that admission. And before you say anything it is big and clever More sad really. You should join dickheads anonymous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eddie 911 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Steve Lanzarote said: More sad really. You should join dickheads anonymous. He's the president 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Everhard 4,965 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 7:43 AM, Hoddie said: Where it can be a "massive help" it can be prescribed by a professional, after a thorough risk assessment of the person's mental health. This is the honest truth.i know of 2 people who have different mental health problems and who are both very different in age and life experience. Both people smoke pot to help them with their problem. There are so many different variables with pot but the thing is pot is still being grown, bought and sold, and smoked whether it's legal or not. Make it legal and you can control the strength and where people smoke it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eddie 911 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Jon Stead took his 2 Jordan cut outs to Wembley today and there's a photo on his twitter page of them 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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