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12 minutes ago, Shaymen0 said:

So he had a statue erected for him to celebrate his slave trading?

And he made the statue 170 years after he died too. Smart man. 

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55 minutes ago, Hands Off The Shay said:

Sky News have recently been interviewing a lady called Dominique Samuels from a newly formed group called Orthodox Conservatives who seems to talk a lot of sense on this and other topics. Keep an eye out for her political career blossoming over the coming years if she sticks at it.

https://www.orthodoxconservatives.uk/

What a load of tosh!

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Just seen this on Twitter from some Jewish commentator and I can certainly see the first part of it happening.

 

If protesters continue to deface monuments like Winston Churchill's statue and burn British flags on the Cenotaph, you will see groups forming to defend them.

These groups will be composed primarily of young, angry white men and led by people with links to groups like the EDL and Tommy Robinson. 

The groups will gather in city centres to "defend our country". They will have names with words like "patriotic", "British", "defence" in them.

Inevitably, they will clash with the current protesters and the police. Under pressure from the media and political class, the police will overreact. They will treat these groups differently to the BLM protesters. They will use force. They will detain people for breaking lockdown rules. They will issue stiff sentences.

The media will do the opposite of what they did with the BLM protesters - instead of talking about how "27 police officers were injured in "largely peaceful" protests", they will run major front page headlines like "27 police officers injured by far right violence".

At this point, the majority of the public will lose the ability to be nuanced. The double standards will be too obvious to ignore. Fuelled by a constant stream of images of white people kneeling, washing POC feet and publicly apologising, as they already are, they will conclude that their very identity is under attack.

At this point, all their sensible aversion to supporting thuggish far right groups will evaporate. They will believe they are in a war for their survival and extreme measures are justified.

At the next election, which will likely be brought forward for one reason or another fuelled by mass unemployment resulting from the economic depression, far right parties will make significant inroads. When I say “far right”, I am not talking about what the far left call “far right” such as anyone who talks about controlling immigration. I’m talking about genuine far right parties that talk about *reversing* immigration and deportations.

These parties will not win seats or get anywhere near Government but they will put a UKIP-like pressure on the Conservatives. Boris Johnson will likely be ousted as too soft and liberal and replaced by a law and order hardliner.

From here, I’m afraid, the journey is all too obvious. The only way to prevent this is to reverse the re-racialisation of our society. Either we learn to live together or the very idea of a multi-ethnic society is over.

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2 minutes ago, Bubba said:

Just seen this on Twitter from some Jewish commentator and I can certainly see the first part of it happening.

 

If protesters continue to deface monuments like Winston Churchill's statue and burn British flags on the Cenotaph, you will see groups forming to defend them.

These groups will be composed primarily of young, angry white men and led by people with links to groups like the EDL and Tommy Robinson. 

The groups will gather in city centres to "defend our country". They will have names with words like "patriotic", "British", "defence" in them.

Inevitably, they will clash with the current protesters and the police. Under pressure from the media and political class, the police will overreact. They will treat these groups differently to the BLM protesters. They will use force. They will detain people for breaking lockdown rules. They will issue stiff sentences.

The media will do the opposite of what they did with the BLM protesters - instead of talking about how "27 police officers were injured in "largely peaceful" protests", they will run major front page headlines like "27 police officers injured by far right violence".

At this point, the majority of the public will lose the ability to be nuanced. The double standards will be too obvious to ignore. Fuelled by a constant stream of images of white people kneeling, washing POC feet and publicly apologising, as they already are, they will conclude that their very identity is under attack.

At this point, all their sensible aversion to supporting thuggish far right groups will evaporate. They will believe they are in a war for their survival and extreme measures are justified.

At the next election, which will likely be brought forward for one reason or another fuelled by mass unemployment resulting from the economic depression, far right parties will make significant inroads. When I say “far right”, I am not talking about what the far left call “far right” such as anyone who talks about controlling immigration. I’m talking about genuine far right parties that talk about *reversing* immigration and deportations.

These parties will not win seats or get anywhere near Government but they will put a UKIP-like pressure on the Conservatives. Boris Johnson will likely be ousted as too soft and liberal and replaced by a law and order hardliner.

From here, I’m afraid, the journey is all too obvious. The only way to prevent this is to reverse the re-racialisation of our society. Either we learn to live together or the very idea of a multi-ethnic society is over.

Germany 1933 all over again!

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37 minutes ago, chrisbo61 said:

Germany 1933 all over again!

But on the plus, you can get out and stop the insignia being pulled down this time! 

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12 minutes ago, Flea said:

But on the plus, you can get out and stop the insignia being pulled down this time! 

Flea my freind, once again comprehension not your strong point is it! Learn to read posts, rather than scan them  makes you look less foolish when you comment on something that is the exact opposite of what was said!

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3 hours ago, chrisbo61 said:

Germany 1933 all over again!

No it's not. Nobody stirred Hitler up. Well, apart from anyone who wasn't of blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin. 

He did try and make his own history up though, a bit like the far left protestors who claimed that "The British Started All Slavery" which even you'll admit is absolute nonsense. 

So I put a friend straight on a bit of history of white British slavery back in the Roman and Viking times. So my friend thanked me for telling me. 

His friend csme on and shouted some really nasty words saying I was justifying it. So I explained to him and told him to sober up and shut his filthy mouth. 

The loudmouth guy is black and I think he might be racist. My friend is black and he isn't racsist and he told him off. 

I reckon that if I'd been near that rally and I pointed out that the banner was factually and historically incorrect I would have probably been attacked. 

It's like 1933 all over again. 

 

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1 hour ago, Erik Everhard said:

No it's not. Nobody stirred Hitler up. Well, apart from anyone who wasn't of blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin. 

He did try and make his own history up though, a bit like the far left protestors who claimed that "The British Started All Slavery" which even you'll admit is absolute nonsense. 

So I put a friend straight on a bit of history of white British slavery back in the Roman and Viking times. So my friend thanked me for telling me. 

His friend csme on and shouted some really nasty words saying I was justifying it. So I explained to him and told him to sober up and shut his filthy mouth. 

The loudmouth guy is black and I think he might be racist. My friend is black and he isn't racsist and he told him off. 

I reckon that if I'd been near that rally and I pointed out that the banner was factually and historically incorrect I would have probably been attacked. 

It's like 1933 all over again. 

 

That's it, I've had it with you, you're a ****ing clown! If you had a brain you'd be dangerous.

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18 minutes ago, chrisbo61 said:

That's it, I've had it with you, you're a ****ing clown! If you had a brain you'd be dangerous.

Sshh grown ups are talking. 

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15 minutes ago, Erik Everhard said:

Sshh grown ups are talking. 

Ha ha! Coming from you that's hilarious! Why don't you go and sort out the left wing fascists? Gormless tit. 

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4 minutes ago, chrisbo61 said:

Ha ha! Coming from you that's hilarious! Why don't you go and sort out the left wing fascists? Gormless tit. 

Chrisbo you are unable to debate for more than a few comments without posting abuse and obscenities at other posters. You will occasionally admit you are wrong but very rarely. 

It's stereotypical far left behaviour. Try and break the stereotype and discuss things and try and do it when you're sober. 

White middle class left wing peoples lives matter. 

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7 hours ago, Erik Everhard said:

Chrisbo you are unable to debate for more than a few comments without posting abuse and obscenities at other posters.

Its obviously your fault for not conforming to his view.

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7 hours ago, Wilder Bollox said:

Sorry but there's no place in the modern game for wingers . It's all about strong defence and a solitary line of attack

Can you direct me to a nearby football forum?

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15 minutes ago, vinnyweknuts said:

Can you direct me to a nearby football forum?

There is no such thing as left wing footballers . You can call them anything you want but don't call them footballers . All footballers are right wingers and will be meeting in The South Stand bar at 7.45 where Chadders will be playing party games and telling jokes

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15 hours ago, Bubba said:

Just seen this on Twitter from some Jewish commentator and I can certainly see the first part of it happening.

 

If protesters continue to deface monuments like Winston Churchill's statue and burn British flags on the Cenotaph, you will see groups forming to defend them.

These groups will be composed primarily of young, angry white men and led by people with links to groups like the EDL and Tommy Robinson. 

The groups will gather in city centres to "defend our country". They will have names with words like "patriotic", "British", "defence" in them.

Inevitably, they will clash with the current protesters and the police. Under pressure from the media and political class, the police will overreact. They will treat these groups differently to the BLM protesters. They will use force. They will detain people for breaking lockdown rules. They will issue stiff sentences.

The media will do the opposite of what they did with the BLM protesters - instead of talking about how "27 police officers were injured in "largely peaceful" protests", they will run major front page headlines like "27 police officers injured by far right violence".

At this point, the majority of the public will lose the ability to be nuanced. The double standards will be too obvious to ignore. Fuelled by a constant stream of images of white people kneeling, washing POC feet and publicly apologising, as they already are, they will conclude that their very identity is under attack.

At this point, all their sensible aversion to supporting thuggish far right groups will evaporate. They will believe they are in a war for their survival and extreme measures are justified.

At the next election, which will likely be brought forward for one reason or another fuelled by mass unemployment resulting from the economic depression, far right parties will make significant inroads. When I say “far right”, I am not talking about what the far left call “far right” such as anyone who talks about controlling immigration. I’m talking about genuine far right parties that talk about *reversing* immigration and deportations.

These parties will not win seats or get anywhere near Government but they will put a UKIP-like pressure on the Conservatives. Boris Johnson will likely be ousted as too soft and liberal and replaced by a law and order hardliner.

From here, I’m afraid, the journey is all too obvious. The only way to prevent this is to reverse the re-racialisation of our society. Either we learn to live together or the very idea of a multi-ethnic society is over.

Completely agree.  Why is it not possible to have any balance in this country? 

I consider myself centered in my political views, but whenever I've heard people say that the far left can be as dangerous as the far right I never really believed it.  But I do now.

The country is more divided now than I've ever known it.  A combination of Brexit, COVID-19 and BLM in quick succession has done a lot of  of damage. 

 

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53 minutes ago, never_shay_die said:

Completely agree.  Why is it not possible to have any balance in this country? 

Politicians. Power drives men (and women) to say and do anything, regardless of the effects.

But, frankly, it's a bit rich of those on the right - and Brexiteers - to call out the left and Remoaners for being divisive. It's not exactly a one-way street.

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9 minutes ago, Hoddie said:

Politicians. Power drives men (and women) to say and do anything, regardless of the effects.

But, frankly, it's a bit rich of those on the right - and Brexiteers - to call out the left and Remoaners for being divisive. It's not exactly a one-way street.

Too true, after all it was the brexit voters that caused the division in the first place, with their dreams of an england that never was!

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Just heard on LBC the BLM lot want to change the name of Downing Street as the bloke who gave it to the nation in the 18th Century had some connection to the slave trade. When will it end pull down Stonehenge  as no doubt our ancient ancestors must have had some slaves didn't  everybody back then.

Slavery is evil but there is no race on earth that does not have it somewhere in its past. Even the current protesters if they look far enough back in history will find they have some connection to owning slaves.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, chrisbo61 said:

Too true, after all it was the brexit voters that caused the division in the first place

:lol::lol::lol: because it was a differing view to yours? Its like a racist saying 'its the black people that caused the division in the first place'.

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25 minutes ago, Hoddie said:

Politicians. Power drives men (and women) to say and do anything, regardless of the effects.

But, frankly, it's a bit rich of those on the right - and Brexiteers - to call out the left and Remoaners for being divisive. It's not exactly a one-way street.

It is rich yes.  Both sides are as guilty of being stubborn, blinkered and often extremist in their views.

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14 minutes ago, chrisbo61 said:

Too true, after all it was the brexit voters that caused the division in the first place, with their dreams of an england that never was!

How dare people vote differently!

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