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16 minutes ago, Flea said:

Our form dipped when Ducky got injured. 

What is to say we wouldn't go on a run of wins if the league is resumed in 4 weeks with him back from injury?

So many unknowns to say who would have finished where. 

Only three games at home out of nine. One of them Barrow. On our form going into those games I think our likely progression may not have been upward. But who can say?

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27 minutes ago, themanwhowasntthere said:

Unfortunately, the Minister for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, Oliver Dowden, who looks and sounds as if he wouldn’t recognise a football if it hit him in the face, was busy writing letters to the BBC on behalf of the government, alleging political bias in the selection of some experts they had featured in a recent episode of Panorama.

WTF is Oliver Dowden? I have never heard him mentioned before, talk about keeping a low profile

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56 minutes ago, Papa Lazarou said:

Doesnt matter a jot what anyone thought we could do. 

Never said it did. I started with the word "personally" which is in my opinion we wouldn't have made the cut. Your opinion may differ. Which is fair enough  

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So again we are still at a point of not knowing what is going on...

EFL2 say they want promotion but no relegation. However, this depends on what EFL1 say.

If EFL 1 say we want promotion but no relegation, then EFL2 have to rethink. EFL1 still have the "Bury" issue to resolve as they only have 23 clubs, so on the assumption that the Championship also agree to go ahead with promotion and relegation, then EFL1 would need as a minimum one club from EFL2. If EFL1opt for promotion/relegation as normal as well, then they would  need  4 teams from EFL2 to make up the roster to 24 teams.

This would still leave EFL2 needing one more team to make up the numbers to 24.

The last part of the equation is how will the NFL resolve having their league reduced by 1 team, do they accept Bury as a replacement? There are no teams coming up from the North/South divisions as they have already null and voided their seasons. 

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10 minutes ago, ITMAN said:

So again we are still at a point of not knowing what is going on...

EFL2 say they want promotion but no relegation. However, this depends on what EFL1 say.

If EFL 1 say we want promotion but no relegation, then EFL2 have to rethink. EFL1 still have the "Bury" issue to resolve as they only have 23 clubs, so on the assumption that the Championship also agree to go ahead with promotion and relegation, then EFL1 would need as a minimum one club from EFL2. If EFL1opt for promotion/relegation as normal as well, then they would  need  4 teams from EFL2 to make up the roster to 24 teams.

This would still leave EFL2 needing one more team to make up the numbers to 24.

The last part of the equation is how will the NFL resolve having their league reduced by 1 team, do they accept Bury as a replacement? There are no teams coming up from the North/South divisions as they have already null and voided their seasons. 

Seems pretty straight forward then!!! 

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I saw part of an interview with the Bradford City CEO who stated that playing the remaining games would cost them £140k in testing costs, they would have to take all of their players off of furlough and pay them and all of this with no revenue from matchdays. You can see why they want to draw a line under the season ad put a cap on their losses now, rather than keep adding to them with the risk that the whole deck of cards falls down if and when we can get back to normal.

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2 minutes ago, Papa Lazarou said:

Seems pretty straight forward then!!! 

REading the BBC report it seems to say that even the EFL2 have not yet made up their minds, only that the clubs have made known what they would like to see:

"Clubs asked for consideration to be given to suspending relegation to the National League for 2019-20 as a result of circumstances created where fixtures cannot be completed," said the EFL in a statement.

"No commitments were made in this respect and the board will now consider the implications of the division's preferred approach at their next meeting."

 

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I think League One and Two should be decided on points per game and then those in play off places can plan for those to take place. Just as the National League have.

Automatic Promotion and unfortunately relegation should also be decided this way. Any play offs can be decided within a week pretty much and in the same format they would have been.

There shouldn’t be any timescale in these taking place as players contracts can be extended and any players signed after 31st March cannot take part in the play offs.

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If there is only one spot available in Division Two for next season then IMO it has to be Barrow on merit. Wild suggests in the Worrier that the top seven should play off for the spot which is both ludicrous and a prime example of straw-clutching. Statistically, even Dagenham and Redbridge who are currently in 18th place could amass enough points to finish top, so they could make a case for being included in any play-off. 

Hopefully, some form of common-sense will prevail and clubs will decide to put the credibility of the league ahead of their individual desires. I know it`s unlikely, but you can only hope there is someone, somewhere grown up enough to sort it out.

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Barrow had a god awful run in to come. It wasn’t a given they’d finish top.

they had to travel to Harrogate, Halifax and Barnet and also had home games with Stockport and a few others at the top.

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Not enough time now for playoffs the way things are going

Promote Barrow to compensate for Bury and jiggle the leagues round a bit

promote Harrogate and relegate Stevenage

 

that would be my suggestion but let’s face it you definitely won’t keep everyone happy 

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Why is there not enough time to complete a few games? There is no timescale on when this season will end as players are agreeing to complete this season and there is nobody else to play or sign for.

I agree if PPG is used to finalise the table then Barrow should go up if Stevenage come down, that’s only fair actually.

Then you need a couple of weeks to finish the play offs. Doesn’t matter when really.

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19 minutes ago, greygoose said:

Just don't promote anyone and the FL run with 1 less as they did all last season without any problems.

Totally agree all Null & Void.

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As it seems that the PL are planning to play to a conclusion, which according to report in the Telegraph today states this includes relegation as well, otherwise there will be a legal challenge from the EFL, then we have a cascade effect.

If the PL stick to the current format of relegating 3 clubs then 3 will need to go up from the Championship. 3 will come down.

If the Championship also play to a conclusion, then the question is will they relegate 3 teams? If yes, then there is a ripple effect all the way down the pyramid.

So, if anything we have to wait and see what the Championship decision is. The EFL has plans to complete the Championship so it would appear they will still look to relegate 3 teams to Div 1. 

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14 minutes ago, ITMAN said:

As it seems that the PL are planning to play to a conclusion, which according to report in the Telegraph today states this includes relegation as well, otherwise there will be a legal challenge from the EFL, then we have a cascade effect.

If the PL stick to the current format of relegating 3 clubs then 3 will need to go up from the Championship. 3 will come down.

If the Championship also play to a conclusion, then the question is will they relegate 3 teams? If yes, then there is a ripple effect all the way down the pyramid.

So, if anything we have to wait and see what the Championship decision is. The EFL has plans to complete the Championship so it would appear they will still look to relegate 3 teams to Div 1. 

The FL would just make it easier to not accept anyone from tye National league.

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Just been announced on Football Focus that Stevenage have been reprieved. Nothing said about promotion from National League. But FL will promote 3 teams to L1 with Swindon as champions.

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3 hours ago, Kay Shay-ra Shay-Ra said:

National League should accept it on the proviso its 3 up for ever after this farce

I dont think sadly that the National league have any power over the decision sadly, as good as it would be 

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1 hour ago, Riders of Rohan said:

Just been announced on Football Focus that Stevenage have been reprieved. Nothing said about promotion from National League. But FL will promote 3 teams to L1 with Swindon as champions.

Still a place for Barrow at Bury's expense. 

That means no play offs then. 

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2 hours ago, ewalsh said:

I dont think sadly that the National league have any power over the decision sadly, as good as it would be 

Neither do the League 2 clubs. It's only a recommendation, which the EFL have the power to overturn.

It's a waste of time debating what might happen, or even what we want to happen. The EFL will make their decisions, then we wait for the courts to sort it out, which on past performance could be halfway through next season.

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5 minutes ago, kit said:

Neither do the League 2 clubs. It's only a recommendation, which the EFL have the power to overturn.

It's a waste of time debating what might happen, or even what we want to happen. The EFL will make their decisions, then we wait for the courts to sort it out, which on past performance could be halfway through next season.

Kit, I agree we should all draw a line under this for now and plan for the new season whenever that happens. What happens is beyond any influence we as mere supporters can bring to bear.

We should take the positives from the season that has just ended and look to the future with hope of better things to come.

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4 hours ago, Ash said:

Why is there not enough time to complete a few games? There is no timescale on when this season will end as players are agreeing to complete this season and there is nobody else to play or sign for.

I agree if PPG is used to finalise the table then Barrow should go up if Stevenage come down, that’s only fair actually.

Then you need a couple of weeks to finish the play offs. Doesn’t matter when really.

Bundesliga will finish the rest of the season behind closed doors. 

Im pretty sure France and Spain have scrapped last season so where does that leave next seasons Champions League?

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2 minutes ago, Erik Everhard said:

Bundesliga will finish the rest of the season behind closed doors. 

Im pretty sure France and Spain have scrapped last season so where does that leave next seasons Champions League?

National FAs will put forward clubs I suppose.

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