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They could, with direction from FIFA/the FA and with friendly governments willing to legislate, force players to remain with clubs beyond their contracts in order to finish the season. But this would result in legal challenges all over the place, from both clubs and players, unions and agents, maybe even some national FAs and leagues.

If they extend the season without forcing players to stay with clubs, this throws into jeopardy the integrity of the final results because some clubs would be able to invest heavily to give them the final push they need, while others - like Halifax Town - may even struggle even to field a full team. Some clubs may even stop trading before the season restarts. Not to mention the impact on next season.

If they cancel the season and produce final standings based on averages, computer models, or even leave them as they are now, this too would be subject to legal challenge from those who lose out.

Playing behind closed doors, twice a week, starting soon, might be the only acceptable answer. But this isn't even an easy option. Some players will refuse to play, some will be self-isolating, some may be trapped abroad. Some may, to put it bluntly, be dead or dealing with loved ones who have died. Then there's managers, physios, coaches, kit men, referees, safety officers and all the rest. Throw in the broadcasters if the plan is to stream, and the other journalists. They'd all need testing to reduce the risk of taking the virus back home to family.

Null and void, and start again next season could be what we end up with. That would be incredibly harsh on so many clubs and their supporters, but it's probably the least worst option.

There are no easy options.

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The FA has finished the season in step 5 & 6 so another ball will not be kicked for the likes of North Ferriby etc. 

This is supposed to implemented across the whole of non league however still no clarification if it’s going to be null/void. 

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25 minutes ago, TJAshton said:

The FA has finished the season in step 5 & 6 so another ball will not be kicked for the likes of North Ferriby etc. 

This is supposed to implemented across the whole of non league however still no clarification if it’s going to be null/void. 

Steps 5 and 6 committee meeting to decide if null and void or promotion/relegation based on PPG.

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Steps 3 and 4 have commenced the process to terminate the season.

The National League intends to resume the season at some point, but feeder leagues do not support this

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Just now, mj85 said:

Steps 3 and 4 have commenced the process to terminate the season.

The National League intends to resume the season at some point, but feeder leagues do not support this

They dont support it due to the players contract issue 

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The Step 3 & 4 Leagues share clubs’ frustration that it is taking so long to determine whether the 2019/20 season is to end now, and if so on what basis. To maintain the integrity of our competitions, we ideally need to apply one solution across all of the National League System. However, this may not be possible.

The Southern, Isthmian and Northern Premier Leagues are unanimous in wanting to terminate the 2019-20 season immediately.

Whether that is done on the basis of determining final placings via average points per game, or the season is declared null & void cannot be decided until the National League decides how it wishes to proceed.

Right now, the National League’s position is that they wish to be able to resume the 2019-20 season at some point. The feeder Leagues do not support this because our clubs do not have the financial resources to continue to honour player contracts indefinitely.

The Southern, Isthmian and Northern Premier Leagues have therefore implemented the process to terminate the season. This has to be ratified by FA council, so there may be a short delay as the relevant documentation is submitted, distributed and approved.

Whilst this process is on-going, and once the National League has finalised how it wishes to proceed, competition issues can then be decided, together with the implications for promotion and relegation.

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Question:- And we probably dont know for sure, but, are the players contracts due to expire at the end of specific months or do they expire at the end of the season. If it is the end of the season as was the case when we went to Wembley and the BoD had to negotiate with some of our players to extend their contract for the one game, then the players would have to honour the contract as the season hasn't ended yet. Presumably if lets say, their contract ended on 25th April 2020 then they are free to go. But where are they gonna go. So effectively clubs could try negotiate contract extensions to complete the season.

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As the last league fixtures were scheduled for the 25th April, then it would be reasonable to assume that contracts ended then, for those players whose contracts did not extend into the next season.

On this basis the club could offer those players out of contract a provisional contract for the remaining games should they be played. I would then expect that this would not be a binding contract until we actually know how the remainder of the season was to be concluded. At the same time it would be possible for those players to be able to enter into either a new contract with a new employer or wait until they had no other offers on the table, in which case they could then sign the "letter of intent" from Halifax. The risk for the player would be o course that other players may have offered their services to us, who are either better than we have or cheaper - it will be a buyers market, so the old players who had not committed to the club could find that their provisional contract was then withdrawn.

All in all a complete mess, which will no doubt lead to some acrimonious exits from all teams, with players and clubs loyalties being exposed.  

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A solution -

Roll over this season into the next one. No team gets relegated or promoted, however we end up with a "double" league table at the end of next season. So instead of teams playing a 46 league game season it becomes a 92 game one.

The excess games that have to be played this season get rolled over to next season.

Cup games, a bit more awkward to sort out for those still in them, however for the league, a double season, whilst not ideal, would reward those teams that did well this season, whilst those that didn't wouldn't get a reprieve. 

Either that or the FA state all players due to be released at the end of this seasons competition can NOT play for another club until the start of the next season. This means they can either stay with their current clubs on a weekly deal / pay as you play deal, or they don't play until its concluded. At the same time, any player out of contract at the end of the season can invoke their contract to be extended until the end of this season with their current parent club. 

Not ideal, but we are not in ideal territory. 

 

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1 minute ago, Flea said:

A solution -

Roll over this season into the next one. No team gets relegated or promoted, however we end up with a "double" league table at the end of next season. So instead of teams playing a 46 league game season it becomes a 92 game one.

The excess games that have to be played this season get rolled over to next season.

Cup games, a bit more awkward to sort out for those still in them, however for the league, a double season, whilst not ideal, would reward those teams that did well this season, whilst those that didn't wouldn't get a reprieve. 

Either that or the FA state all players due to be released at the end of this seasons competition can NOT play for another club until the start of the next season. This means they can either stay with their current clubs on a weekly deal / pay as you play deal, or they don't play until its concluded. At the same time, any player out of contract at the end of the season can invoke their contract to be extended until the end of this season with their current parent club. 

Not ideal, but we are not in ideal territory. 

 

Would be my choice . Even if last seasons strong teams become rubbish and this seasons rubbish teams become strong . It may well be that things don't get going again this year

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13 minutes ago, Flea said:

A solution -

Roll over this season into the next one. No team gets relegated or promoted, however we end up with a "double" league table at the end of next season. So instead of teams playing a 46 league game season it becomes a 92 game one.

The excess games that have to be played this season get rolled over to next season.

Cup games, a bit more awkward to sort out for those still in them, however for the league, a double season, whilst not ideal, would reward those teams that did well this season, whilst those that didn't wouldn't get a reprieve. 

Either that or the FA state all players due to be released at the end of this seasons competition can NOT play for another club until the start of the next season. This means they can either stay with their current clubs on a weekly deal / pay as you play deal, or they don't play until its concluded. At the same time, any player out of contract at the end of the season can invoke their contract to be extended until the end of this season with their current parent club. 

Not ideal, but we are not in ideal territory. 

 

I did think about that myself and its seems a definite option as at least the clubs that have done well this season get a head start next season. That is provided the season can kick off July/August 

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34 minutes ago, Flea said:

A solution -

Roll over this season into the next one. No team gets relegated or promoted, however we end up with a "double" league table at the end of next season. So instead of teams playing a 46 league game season it becomes a 92 game one.

The excess games that have to be played this season get rolled over to next season.

Cup games, a bit more awkward to sort out for those still in them, however for the league, a double season, whilst not ideal, would reward those teams that did well this season, whilst those that didn't wouldn't get a reprieve. 

Either that or the FA state all players due to be released at the end of this seasons competition can NOT play for another club until the start of the next season. This means they can either stay with their current clubs on a weekly deal / pay as you play deal, or they don't play until its concluded. At the same time, any player out of contract at the end of the season can invoke their contract to be extended until the end of this season with their current parent club. 

Not ideal, but we are not in ideal territory. 

 

Spot on but don't forget these people are indeed incapable of making sensible solutions.

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Wonder where all of that would stand since the Bosman ruling? It would be impossible to impose any restrictions on the freedom of movement of players after the end of their current contract. I feel, and it depends on how many players at this level have agents, it would be open season for the teams like Stockport to go around waving their cheque books, or should that be debit cards as no seems to want to take cheques or cash these days.....

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Play behind closed doors so that all the clubs have played the same no games ..

then the leagues stand as is and promotion and regulation based on that table 

nick 

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Just seen this morning on Twitter the National League is being cancelled and will be null & void. 

“The National League have voted to end their season now due to the coronavirus crisis.

The League held a board meeting yesterday & decided to vote in favour of declaring the season null & void.”

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46 minutes ago, Nick said:

Play behind closed doors so that all the clubs have played the same no games ..

then the leagues stand as is and promotion and regulation based on that table 

nick 

Players turning up and going home in their kit? Not showering? No team talks? No tackling? Not allowed within two metres of each other to close players down or intercept passes? No physio treatment for potential injuries? Total non contact?

Yeah, can see that one working. 

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