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7 minutes ago, Erik Everhard said:

Exactly. They are at fault. When you look at some of the impoverished African countries you can kind of understand disease spreading but China has one of the best economies in the world and they should be starting to implement standards that we have in Europe and especially the UK. 

I said the other day that this is what happens when you mistreat animals for so long. 

Savages. 

I think there are many things that we could learn from eastern societies, in particular when it comes to looking after and respecting elderly members of society. However, one area where they definitely need to open their minds is animal welfare and food standards/safety.

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11 minutes ago, Norm said:

I think there are many things that we could learn from eastern societies, in particular when it comes to looking after and respecting elderly members of society. However, one area where they definitely need to open their minds is animal welfare and food standards/safety.

True. One province has already banned the eating of dogs. It nneds to be a full ban of eating cats and dogs before I buy any of their produce. I always check to see if somethings been made in China and if it has then I don't buy it. 

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1 minute ago, Erik Everhard said:

True. One province has already banned the eating of dogs. It nneds to be a full ban of eating cats and dogs before I buy any of their produce. I always check to see if somethings been made in China and if it has then I don't buy it. 

You must struggle there mate, pretty much everything is now made in PRC.

 

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I cannot think of a greater misuse of the words Peoples and Republic together when you grasp the enormity of the State led machine that the PRC is.

At least Soviet Socialist Republics was nearer to the mark..

It's when they start using Democratic in the countries name I get worried! .

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1 hour ago, monk said:

Don't try online shopping at Asda , next available delivery slot , a week on Saturday .

I think I was lucky, just booked one this morning for Thursday noon. It was the only slot available until next Saturday, must have been a cancellation.

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56 minutes ago, Norm said:

They locked down one province and you can do that when you are a one party police state. There is no knowing the full extent of the spread of the virus in China because they won't release accurate information.

In addition they tried to suppress the news of the outbreak when it initially started.

Finally if they operated decent standards of food hygiene the ****ing thing wouldn't have started in the first place  so please don't use China as an example of how to manage the problem.

The Chief Scientific Adviser Sir Patrick Vallence referred to China and complemented them on how they handled the outbreak .

Not sure with social media , N.Korea apart that any country can lie about the situation in their country , we all saw them build a hospital in 4 days . Agree about what they eat but they might think a lamb chop is gross .

 

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19 minutes ago, Norm said:

You must struggle there mate, pretty much everything is now made in PRC.

 

It can be at times but it's surprising how much stuff is being made elsewhere in Asia and even Europe. Portugal seems to be making a hell of a lot of clothing. Expensive though. 

But yes.the Chinese machine is still pumping out an enormous amount of goods. Mostly poor quality. 

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15 minutes ago, Hoddie said:

I think I was lucky, just booked one this morning for Thursday noon. It was the only slot available until next Saturday, must have been a cancellation.

Shelves are empty due to pickers taking it all for online customers .

 

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11 minutes ago, monk said:

Shelves are empty due to pickers taking it all for online customers .

I just logged in to add some milk to my order and half the stuff already there are now out of stock. Will check again tomorrow night, see if I can add some of it back before midnight.

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17 minutes ago, Hoddie said:

I just logged in to add some milk to my order and half the stuff already there are now out of stock. Will check again tomorrow night, see if I can add some of it back before midnight.

Try soya milk. 

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1 hour ago, monk said:

The Chief Scientific Adviser Sir Patrick Vallence referred to China and complemented them on how they handled the outbreak .

Not sure with social media , N.Korea apart that any country can lie about the situation in their country , we all saw them build a hospital in 4 days . Agree about what they eat but they might think a lamb chop is gross .

 

They wanted us to see the Hospital built  though mate, that's why we all know about it. Fair point re lamb chops.

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In the local supermarket today when a young lady on the next self service till to me needed help. The assistant came took the item of her and scanned it, The girl shouted I didn't want you to touch it (it was a sealed item). The assistant said go and get another one then. The girl left all the shopping and walked out. I said to the assistant who did she think put everything on the shelfs. The assistant good humouredly laughed and said it must have been the fairies. We all need to be extra careful and vigilant but that is taking paranoia way too far.

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1 hour ago, townmad said:

In the local supermarket today when a young lady on the next self service till to me needed help. The assistant came took the item of her and scanned it, The girl shouted I didn't want you to touch it (it was a sealed item). The assistant said go and get another one then. The girl left all the shopping and walked out. I said to the assistant who did she think put everything on the shelfs. The assistant good humouredly laughed and said it must have been the fairies. We all need to be extra careful and vigilant but that is taking paranoia way too far.

And how many people does she think have picked it up and put it down again ?

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Non connecting parts of the underground will close from tomorrow. 

Buses will ferry essential workers to and from work on their absence. 

They reckon that London is roughly 2 weeks ahead of us in the virus timescale and that it's spread quite quickly there.

I can't help but think there should have been an Italian style lockdown. Ecofe now. 

I've just been reading the thoughts of a woman who is a mother to two children and lives in Italy. She said that all kids should be kept in doors. In hindsight she feels that the lockdown should have come sooner and that, just like here many people didn't take the virus seriously enough.

She said that yes, most people on life support and ventilators are elderly but there are a significant number of people in their 40's and 50's.

But her overriding advice is to stay away from other people for as long as possible. 

I fear that We are nowhere near our peak yet and that stricter measures should be implemented ASAP. 

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What I don't understand is why if they have had the big lock down in Italy why the daily death rate is escalating and not reducing?

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2 hours ago, ITMAN said:

What I don't understand is why if they have had the big lock down in Italy why the daily death rate is escalating and not reducing?

Some don't show symptoms for 10-12 days, then add in a 3-5 days at home trying to ride it out. The lockdown has only been in force a week. 

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2 hours ago, ITMAN said:

What I don't understand is why if they have had the big lock down in Italy why the daily death rate is escalating and not reducing?

It depnds which part of Italy you live in. I think its the Lombardy region that been hit the worst. 

I've just been reading about one twin in Italy that has been agressibley testing its occupents and its helped to halt the spread. By that I mean lots of people with testing lots asking people to use a kit to test whether they have it or not. 

I honestly think much more needs to be done especially after hearing that lots of bars and restaurants in London were busy yesterday as the Prime Minister gave his daily press conference. Although I have seen footage of parts of London and they were empty. London is a big place I suppose and both things could be true and are happening in different places. 

Let's hope they find a vavine that kills the virus sooner rather than later. 

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6 hours ago, Icke's Lizard said:

Some don't show symptoms for 10-12 days, then add in a 3-5 days at home trying to ride it out. The lockdown has only been in force a week. 

Whilst it could be possible to not show symptoms for up to 3 weeks I'd find it unlikely . With this kind of virus you'd normally be showing symptoms within 3 days (5 days maximum) but it will be active in your body for far longer than 3-5 days (9 days minimum, possibly as long as 24 days from first symptoms to your body clear of passing on infection)

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7 hours ago, Erik Everhard said:

It depnds which part of Italy you live in. I think its the Lombardy region that been hit the worst. 

I've just been reading about one twin in Italy that has been agressibley testing its occupents and its helped to halt the spread. By that I mean lots of people with testing lots asking people to use a kit to test whether they have it or not. 

I honestly think much more needs to be done especially after hearing that lots of bars and restaurants in London were busy yesterday as the Prime Minister gave his daily press conference. Although I have seen footage of parts of London and they were empty. London is a big place I suppose and both things could be true and are happening in different places. 

Let's hope they find a vavine that kills the virus sooner rather than later. 

The idiot asking that specific question at the press conference obviously hasn’t been outside in London given I can confirm bars and restaurants here are absolutely not busy. Idiots spouting lies for a news story should be called out - precisely why Boris just ignored that part of her question, because she was outright lying.

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1 hour ago, Wilder Bollox said:

Whilst it could be possible to not show symptoms for up to 3 weeks I'd find it unlikely . With this kind of virus you'd normally be showing symptoms within 3 days (5 days maximum) but it will be active in your body for far longer than 3-5 days (9 days minimum, possibly as long as 24 days from first symptoms to your body clear of passing on infection)

The sooner they get the antibody test out so they can see who has already had it the better. It will either show them there’s a lot less to panic about than they currently fear, or it will prove they have a reason to be really panicking. Either way, would be good to know.

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On 3/17/2020 at 4:27 PM, monk said:

Shelves are empty due to pickers taking it all for online customers .

 

An elderly lady I visit decided to contact Wiltshire Farmfoods, to have her meals delivered. She rang their number, only to be told that she was 51st in the queue.

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Latest Goverment figures:-

Around the world, there are now 222,000 confirmed cases of covid-19 including 9,100 deaths.
 
Around 84,500 people have recovered from the illness since the outbreak began at the end of last year.

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