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Time to make some other plans then. Brilliant.  

 

Saying that. If the game was off, it gives brownie extra time to get fit and Sutton having to travel on a Tuesday night wild hamper them. It could work in our favour! 

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Lets remember the source is the Courier, so its not like its reliable. 

That said, its been horrific weather wise this week so I fear the worst.

As to the Rugby club playing on it, its not their problem if the pitch isn't suitable for us. Our anger shouldn't be placed at them, however we should be asking if Calderfail are doing all they can to improve the pitch life and quality of it, or are they still on the quick cheap fix it efforts.

The likes of Ozzy and Co can only do so much if the underlying problems (Clay blocking drainage etc) are continually being neglected to be fixed because the Council believe they can quick fix it a lot cheaper. At the moment we have a ridiculously good ground that is more than good enough for both the football and rugby club, yet a pitch that after a week of bad weather or a couple of games, is in worse condition to those on the moors. 

The council deem it fit to rent the ground out to both the football and rugby clubs and in theory the pitch should hold up for both teams, with wear and tare expected, however we shouldn't be one game into the rugby season with fears for the rest of the season coming up. When this happens consistently every year (and in fairness the mild weather last year did "pay off" in helping the pitch) one has to ask if those providing the facilities are negligent in their obligations, rather than those that are paying to use the facilities. 

Lets not have talk about the rugby club not playing on the pitch however. They have as much right as paying tenants to do so. The issue is the council's bodge it approach to maintenance and to funding it properly. 

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4 minutes ago, Flea said:

Lets not have talk about the rugby club not playing on the pitch however. They have as much right as paying tenants to do so. The issue is the council's bodge it approach to maintenance and to funding it properly. 

Lets imagine both clubs owned (or at least held long term leases) the Shay, which in the latter case they have. The money needed to be spent on the pitch would not be found, as it wasnt in the past. It is a historic issue that has never been addresses due to a lack of funding. I am not sure if there is a strong enough argument for the Council to use (probably) hundreds of thousands of tax payers money to do what is required to sort the pitch.

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1 minute ago, Bubba said:

Lets imagine both clubs owned (or at least held long term leases) the Shay, which in the latter case they have. The money needed to be spent on the pitch would not be found, as it wasnt in the past. It is a historic issue that has never been addresses due to a lack of funding. I am not sure if there is a strong enough argument for the Council to use (probably) hundreds of thousands of tax payers money to do what is required to sort the pitch.

Yet the Council can spunk millions into new offices for themselves, when there are plenty of empty offices already in government held buildings around the Town - and enough space to house loads already at The Shay?

As an asset the Shay is shockingly looked after or exploited for its potential by the Council. They have neglected to maximise its revenue potential to the point that they can't even be arsed to chase up rent and sponsorship money for the place half the time. Why don't they use the offices at the Shay for council matters and use a portion of that money on improving the pitch?

Sometimes it needs a bigger original outlay to get a long term improvement. We must be way past the point now where all the "quick fixes" have cost more than actually getting the root problem fixed and sorted. 

At the moment I would say the ground is probably Championship standard for football. Facilities wise its up there. The pitch itself however is not fit for Sunday League football once we have bad weather. 

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The rugby club shows total contempt towards FC Halifax Town & the pitch. We will be called off on Saturday & yet the Rugby will play Sunday. You can almost guarantee it... 

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50 minutes ago, fez said:

It'll end up like this again...

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Summer Rugby eh, great stuff. 

Surely this sport needs look at consolidating its season a bit? February while mid September to fulfill 27 league fixtures is crazy. Throw 5/6 midweek games in the June/July/August period and you can start the season mid March. 

The pitch is what it is and just cant cope at this time year, the root problem it appears is too much money to solve. 

Don't think the Fax can do much about it either, they will play games if its fit to do so as will we. 

 

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22 minutes ago, ashy1966 said:

The rugby club shows total contempt towards FC Halifax Town & the pitch. We will be called off on Saturday & yet the Rugby will play Sunday. You can almost guarantee it... 

Neither club can just call games off as and when they please. Im not sure what part of that people don't understand.

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19 minutes ago, Greg Florimos Boots said:

Neither club can just call games off as and when they please. Im not sure what part of that people don't understand.

Both games should be called off to safeguard the pitch. 

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22 minutes ago, Greg Florimos Boots said:

Neither club can just call games off as and when they please. Im not sure what part of that people don't understand.

The contempt in this case is your club using Twitter to trivialise the state of the pitch, shortly after CC said they'd be unlikely to get the Town game on as planned.

Squatters out.

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8 minutes ago, Hoddie said:

The contempt in this case is your club using Twitter to trivialise the state of the pitch, shortly after CC said they'd be unlikely to get the Town game on as planned.

Squatters out.

Picked up on it exactly the same as you hoodie. Why put up a post almost laughing at the state of the pitch knowing full well what the reaction to it would be? Strange how our old friend Florimo also decides to rock up only when he knows how town fans will react.

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7 minutes ago, ashy1966 said:

Both games should be called off to safeguard the pitch. 

You're still not grasping it...

The referee for Sunday's game will consider if the pitch is fit for rugby that afternoon.He won't give a feck about future considerations

and the club is governed by his decision.

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4 minutes ago, eddies mate said:

You're still not grasping it...

The referee for Sunday's game will consider if the pitch is fit for rugby that afternoon.He won't give a feck about future considerations

and the club is governed by his decision.

So the Council don't have the power to call a game off then? 

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2 minutes ago, ashy1966 said:

So the Council don't have the power to call a game off then? 

I think they have the power to call off a non competitive game, however a league or cup game, not unless its on public safety grounds. 

If Fax were playing a friendly on Sunday then I'd be wanting common sense to prevail and the game to get canned. However, as its a competitive game, well it would be unreasonable to demand the game is off. 

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6 minutes ago, ashy1966 said:

So the Council don't have the power to call a game off then? 

Only friendlies unless they could convince the referee of safety concerns high winds/deep snow on approach roads etc.

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48 minutes ago, Greg Florimos Boots said:

Neither club can just call games off as and when they please. Im not sure what part of that people don't understand.

You have only just started your season and have plenty of time to rearrange your game within the season. If the ground is waterlogged and you then choose to play on it that's utter contempt for the other tenants especially when football has more stringent rules of what's deemed playable. It could literally cost us the chance to get out of this league 

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9 minutes ago, Flea said:

I think they have the power to call off a non competitive game, however a league or cup game, not unless its on public safety grounds. 

If Fax were playing a friendly on Sunday then I'd be wanting common sense to prevail and the game to get canned. However, as its a competitive game, well it would be unreasonable to demand the game is off. 

Best go ask if Rochdale have a few free midweeks then. If they play on Sunday we wont be playing at home again till April 

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1 minute ago, Greggs said:

You have only just started your season and have plenty of time to rearrange your game within the season. If the ground is waterlogged and you then choose to play on it that's utter contempt for the other tenants especially when football has more stringent rules of what's deemed playable. It could literally cost us the chance to get out of this league 

Jesus. They don't choose, the referee chooses.

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1 minute ago, Twisted Wheel said:

Jesus. They don't choose, the referee chooses.

When 2 clubs share a facility and one has far more stringent rules on what they can play on common sense should prevail. 

My concern is we wont be able to play a home game till April if they do play on it. Effectively wrecking our promotion Hope's 

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it is of no concern to the rugby club if the pitch is no longer suitable for football in the days / weeks ahead.  The ground owners should realise that for joint use then they have responsibility  to provide a pitch which is usable by both parties.

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Our game will kick off at 3 on Saturday, Dennis will most likely arrive during the game and the rugby will play on Sunday . Logistically this shouldn't happen but it's what's going to happen

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6 minutes ago, Wilder Bollox said:

Our game will kick off at 3 on Saturday, Dennis will most likely arrive during the game and the rugby will play on Sunday . Logistically this shouldn't happen but it's what's going to happen

The council has stated the pitch is currently waterlogged and unlikely to be available for the game on Saturday  

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