Steve Lanzarote 4,546 Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Indeed. But I bet it's something that happens many times a week in every town in the land. But he was caught through his bravado & conceit ..... followed by his internet behavior on release posting her photo etc Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba 1,851 Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 He wasnt caught. There wasnt any evidence that he raped her except the opinion of the jury that the girl was that pissed that she couldnt have lawfully given consent. Rightly or wrongly, male or female, as Bazza says, it unfortunately happens all the time, every weekend up and down the land. She may well have been conscious during the sex and encouraging him on but because she was deemed to have been so intoxicated it has been classed as rape. Link to post Share on other sites
eddies mate 2,224 Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 He wasnt caught. There wasnt any evidence that he raped her except the opinion of the jury that the girl was that pissed that she couldnt have lawfully given consent. Rightly or wrongly, male or female, as Bazza says, it unfortunately happens all the time, every weekend up and down the land. She may well have been conscious during the sex and encouraging him on but because she was deemed to have been so intoxicated it has been classed as rape. As several have said could have happened to many of us.In my case they had to be intoxicated. Link to post Share on other sites
Shaytrev 3,170 Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 He wasnt caught. There wasnt any evidence that he raped her except the opinion of the jury that the girl was that pissed that she couldnt have lawfully given consent. Rightly or wrongly, male or female, as Bazza says, it unfortunately happens all the time, every weekend up and down the land. She may well have been conscious during the sex and encouraging him on but because she was deemed to have been so intoxicated it has been classed as rape. Young people in Britain have gone out every weekend for decades and got blitzed out of their minds and had sex. In this case video evidence shows she was not blitzed out of her mind. p.s. Bubba, for someone who did not want to discuss this subject you have done very well. Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba 1,851 Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 You know me, Trev. Always happy to offer my opinion Link to post Share on other sites
greygoose 1,688 Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 He'd just retire before signing for a non league club anyway, it would be a pointless move for him as things stand even a club our size would take a hell of a bashing for signing him, unless he wins his appeal its game over for his footballing career imo. Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Wheel 160 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Oldham Link to post Share on other sites
Shaytrev 3,170 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 It has been reported here in Malta that Hibernians (Malta) tried to sign him. British newspapers quoted Stephan Vaughn, remember him? as an official of Hibernians, which he is not. Vaughn is the former Chairman of Barrow and Chester, his underworld connections with drugs etc etc known by many. He is now in Malta. Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Lanzarote 4,546 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 It has been reported here in Malta that Hibernians (Malta) tried to sign him. British newspapers quoted Stephan Vaughn, remember him? as an official of Hibernians, which he is not. Vaughn is the former Chairman of Barrow and Chester, his underworld connections with drugs etc etc known by many. He is now in Malta. it was on sky news last night denied by Evans agent (Uk refused him permition to travel as sex affender on linsence) also L1 club agreed terms Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Wheel 160 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Oldham Link to post Share on other sites
steve lumb 1,079 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Oldham well Lee Hughes restarted his career there....... Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Whoops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drX5WNw_UwM Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Lanzarote 4,546 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 about right for Oldham............... Link to post Share on other sites
Shayite432 128 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 But he's not spent it. Sentenced for 5 years in 2012, so he's out on license and could be recalled at any point. To be honest I'm furious at the prison service, probation service etc. for letting him out whilst showing no contrition or remorse. He's still on the sex offender register. He's not served his sentence at all, and won't be rehabilitated. If he wants to get his conviction overturned then fine, but **** off and do it somewhere else. And don't forget, as well as the conviction two Court of Appeal hearings (i.e. 4 more judges) have refused to give him permission to appeal, so I'm happy the judiciary think the verdict is a correct one. And, if he wins his case review, the case will go back to the court of appeal so he'll be back in court on trial again. Is that really something we'd want at the club? Its not a licence condition to show contrition for your crime. Like any other offender he can serve half his sentance then be on licence for the remainder of it. Conditions are written onto licences - attending with a probation officer on a weekly basis, because of what he was convicted for, he may have a condition not to pick up females and take them to hotel rooms or suchlike. He will be on the SOR for a specified number of years dependant upon offence Link to post Share on other sites
Jumbo1 246 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Well done to Oldham. Maybe now a line can be drawn under the whole thing and everyone can move on. Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Lanzarote 4,546 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 3000 signature to prevent signing in first 30 mins bet they dont sign him Link to post Share on other sites
Jmc 1,566 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Think their average crowd not much more ! Don't Imagine that reflects their support ! Think across all forums of various clubs opinion is probably slightly in favour of signing him if it improves the team . Link to post Share on other sites
Shaytrev 3,170 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 3000 signature to prevent signing in first 30 mins bet they dont sign him They are not signatures, Hatchet the feminazi did not go around the houses asking people to sign, it is not a petition but internet spam. Most of the spammers will have never been to Oldham. Link to post Share on other sites
vinnyweknuts 3,095 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 They are not signatures, Hatchet the feminazi did not go around the houses asking people to sign, it is not a petition but internet spam. Most of the spammers will have never been to Oldham. In fairness anyone who has not been to Oldham is blessed Link to post Share on other sites
dj funky 1,933 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Agree with shaytrev internet spam. Link to post Share on other sites
Shaymen on the hill 29 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 it seems the oldham manager has reservations about signing Ched Evans, see link below http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ched-evans-to-oldham-exclusive-league-one-latics-manager-lee-johnson-against-idea-of-signing-evans-9956932.html Link to post Share on other sites
moodyb1 29 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Its not a licence condition to show contrition for your crime. perhaps we should apply the American principle that you're not eligible for parole unless you admit your crime (assuming what i understood from an episode of "murder one" was correct) Link to post Share on other sites
Wilder Bollox 5,434 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 perhaps we should apply the American principle that you're not eligible for parole unless you admit your crime (assuming what i understood from an episode of "murder one" was correct) But why should you have to admit that you committed a crime in cases where you didn't commit a crime ? I might be a bit thick, but why should you get a stiffer penalty for not admitting to committing a crime that you know you didn't commit ! ( this is not in reference to Evans , but a general reference to when the police cock up or stitch someone up ) Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Lanzarote 4,546 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Still would not sign him......here we go again Link to post Share on other sites
Shaytrev 3,170 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Looks like Oldham are pulling out of the deal. Out of interest, has anyone seen the 'victims' tweets that the American Hacker unearthed proving she was a liar? Link to post Share on other sites
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